Dx7 Sysex Patch
Also be aware that you may find a lot of duplicates. ROM1a, 1b, 2a, and 2b were the factory sounds in Japan and ROM3a, 3b, 4a, and 4b were the factory sounds in USA. I prefer the USA ones but there are a few awesome sounds that are missing which are in the Japanese set. At least half of the sounds overlap between the two. EDIT: Some of the classic/familiar DX7 sounds were the presets on the DX7 mkii. Since you are using FM8 you should try to get a hold of the DX7ii presets as well. Most famous patch = 'Super Bass'.
8bit9bot No Longer Registered. Danika wrote:I'm not looking for new patches, just the classic DX7 patches that were used in the 80's-something like the ones in this list (assuming its accurate):. I have a Native Instruments FM8, not a DX7.
However (as the forum mod in the software forum helpfully reminded me) I can import DX7 sysex. I have both the hardware DX7 MKII and FM8 versions. Collect all the original sysex files and place them in a folder on your computer. Next, load up FM8 and click 'File' 'Import Sysex'.
Greetings all, I hope I'm asking this question in the right subforum. Recently I started using the wonderful DEXED DX7 emulator vst in my compositions. I soon learned that there are literally thousands of DX7 sysex patches publicly available so I've downloaded a number of them to build a library of sounds. Here is a collection of public domain patches for the DX7 in several formats: SYX files (1,177,600 byte tar file) These are system exclusive files, each containing one bank of 32 voices. These are complete with sysex headers. The original factory patches are here as rom1a.syx - rom4b.syx. Dx7patch.zip The same, zipped into one big file (475,707 bytes).
Load up the sound bank/individual sound you want and FM8 will convert it to run in software. In 'Browser' mode you will see a new entry 'ConvertedSysexSounds' (or something to that effect) and from there you will be able to call up the original DX7 sounds. I've extensively A/B'd the sounds and they sound identical (some of the modwheel LFO settings are off) but the fundemental sound character is the same. I run it in 32bit 96khz + high resolution mode.and im VERY happy with the results.
Once my DX is back from repair im going to copy all the sounds I've got on disk/cartridges for use in FM8. With FM8 I can take these sounds even further Its funny, im less interested in using FM8 for new sounds.but as a comprehensive library/editing tool for all my old/classic sounds. Thats why I love FM.for the 80's vibe. 8bit9bot wrote:Also be aware that you may find a lot of duplicates.
ROM1a, 1b, 2a, and 2b were the factory sounds in Japan and ROM3a, 3b, 4a, and 4b were the factory sounds in USA. I prefer the USA ones but there are a few awesome sounds that are missing which are in the Japanese set. At least half of the sounds overlap between the two.
EDIT: Some of the classic/familiar DX7 sounds were the presets on the DX7 mkii. Since you are using FM8 you should try to get a hold of the DX7ii presets as well. Most famous patch = 'Super Bass'. For instance you will find the classic ePiano and DX bass patches croping up. At first it confused me and I was worried that whoever 'archived' the files for future uses F.$&ED up.
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But no, its all good.just be aware. There are atleast 6 super classic factory presets on the MKII Factory ROM cartridge - these include FullTines (THE sound of late 80's ePiano) and some brass/strings/bass. Dont even get me started on the Monster ROM 512 cartridge - which practically every artist used in the late 80's.
Once my DX comes back im going to dump all the sounds from my collection - many of which have never been seen on the internet. 8bit9bot wrote: There are atleast 6 super classic factory presets on the MKII Factory ROM cartridge - these include FullTines (THE sound of late 80's ePiano) and some brass/strings/bass. Dont even get me started on the Monster ROM 512 cartridge - which practically every artist used in the late 80's. Once my DX comes back im going to dump all the sounds from my collection - many of which have never been seen on the internet.
DS Does that mean you're going to post them on the internet? Newbie Posts: 6 Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:03 pm.
MUFF WIGGLER:: View topic - Weirdest DX7 patches - Author Weirdest DX7 patches lionelfischer I've found hundreds of DX7 patches online and loading them up via sysex. Everything I find seems random and unorganized. Does anyone have recommendations for someone like me that's trying to find bizarre sounds instead of traditional bass, piano, and pads etc. Each bank I find has a few weird ones in it. But where is the phat stash of bizarre patches bbow73 Hey Z, I know you hate computers but back in the day there was a program that could generate random patches for the DX7 as well as patches that were morphed between to patches of your choosing. Maybe not something for you per say, but maybe someone else has it or has already generated a bunch of patches using this thing. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
Luka +1 keen on this too Chiefy11 Luka wrote: +1 keen on this too I agree as well, I've got a TX-316 that is a complete bear to program. Lionelfischer bbow73 wrote: Hey Z, I know you hate computers but back in the day there was a program that could generate random patches for the DX7 as well as patches that were morphed between to patches of your choosing.? That would be so cool. Yeah funny that the day after our talk i began delving into midi for the VERY FIRST TIME.
Dx7 is pretty sweet sounding. Im having fun but also getting bummed out with midi shit. Im recording a ton of stuff and will probably sell it soon along with poly800 and get back to CV. Or if i can make my own custom program thats the best of the best of all these sysex file's i'm downloading, maybe ill hang onto dx7 and just keep the one bank of 32 dope sounds installed or something. Does anyone know if you can save your favorite sounds to a cartridge? I saw some cartridges on craigslist today, would be cool if you could write whatver you want to a cartridge. CF3 bbow73 wrote: Hey Z, I know you hate computers but back in the day there was a program that could generate random patches for the DX7 as well as patches that were morphed between to patches of your choosing This is my suggestion also.
There's a few DX7 editors out there. I've got one for my TX81z that lets you randomize patch parameters.
Instant weirdness. The editor for the Evolver lets you do preset genetics and morphing. Every synthesizer should be required to have a random button.
EDIT: Here's a RAM Cartridge breakdown lionelfischer all i see is random generator programs for c64 or atari computers. CF3 Don't know if you're on mac or pc. WAY more stuff for pc's SoundQuest editor has a randomizer Unisyn does random. (i've got a copy on a disk somewhere ) There's a bunch of DX7 editors out there (especially PC). If you're feeling adventurous there's JSynthLib. Deastman I remember doing the random and morphed patch thing on a TX816 at my university.
If I recall correctly, it was Opcode Galaxy which had that feature. Markjamesriver I got the ipad editor for my TX81Z. Works pretty well even over wifi. Gets real trashy real quick. I just start with a preset and start mangling away at random parameters. Is it true back in the glorious 80's that big studios actually paid dudes to come and program their DX7s.?
In that case maybe some of these geezers are still around and you can contract them out. Lionelfischer whoa. Would the ipad editor work for dx7 stuff?
Markjamesriver The app I have for my TX81z is called itx81z. The DX7 is called idx7. Mine works fine, I use it over wifi by setting up a network session under midi preferences. Then you just route that session to whatever midi port your dx7 is on. Limpmeat Wait until the patch memory battery dies Mine did, and it loaded a new bunch or random patches every time you turned it on. Some really weird stuff. Luka the only issue is it pushes a lot of values out of range and you can't seem to get them back to a normal value.
I had to restore patches from cartridge when it happened to the one i have tim gueguen Given how hard most people find programming one wouldn't werido patches be an easy result of any attempt at programming? Dumaisaudio tim gueguen wrote: Given how hard most people find programming one wouldn't werido patches be an easy result of any attempt at programming? I never bothered trying to program it because there are just so many patches out there already. Just go into any patch and start changing the operators, that will change things fast. I know what the original poster is talking about though. I'll dump a bank in and one or two patches will just be something weird and unexpected, making you think how did that sound come out of here.
I need to start saving those outside of the banks and start to compile my own. Yip2 Has anyone tried any of the patch collection cd-roms for sale on eBay? They range from $7 to $20 and 1000 to 20,000 patches, but each one claims to be better than the other with no dud patches, better organization, etc. I'm always thinking of buying one but I'm worried the one I pick might be the same as the random sysex I downloaded myself for free. Bbow73 I think the editor I was thinking of was made by Opcode. Rrich Opcode Galaxy had a randomizing editor that could take a selection of desired patches and permute between them.
I found many cool variations of percussion sounds doing this, morphing from rubbery to woody to plastic-metallic. I still have an ancient laptop (Mac Portable 5300) with my last functioning install of Galaxy, although my DX7II is 25 years old and dumped its data from battery death a couple times over, not to mention the E! Card adds complexity to saving the global programs. Mine sits in its flight case in storage - I decided to move forward, although it has many sounds that I loved 20 years ago.
Christopher Winkels The fastest/easiest way to get very weird very quickly is simply to call up the Algorithm parameter and start flicking through them. That way you can have 32 different variations of most presets ranging from inaudible to white noise, with a panoply of choices in between. The other good way of going about this it to pick a couple of operators and change them to fixed frequency rather than ratio. Again; one or two small switches can completely change the nature of a patch with minimal effort.
Mmp There are very good Atari emulators that suppot MIDI for both PC & Mac with lots of music software. A good site that has compiled music software released into the public domain is:, but there are others.
There should be a range of DX editors available there for free. Oisin mmp wrote: There should be a range of DX editors available there for free. Anyone have a favorite they are using on OSX? Would love to dust off the ole TX7 lionelfischer yo, anyone used this before: Ranxerox oisin wrote: mmp wrote: There should be a range of DX editors available there for free. Anyone have a favorite they are using on OSX? Would love to dust off the ole TX7 Just cruise the net for a copy of the Emagic Soundiver 3.0 beta. It's fairly crashy, but the DX7 editor is stable enough.
I use it with my DX7 IIFD without a hitch, although it doesn't seem to like my FS1R at all. Jonah Soundiver osx beta appears not to work on 10.7 and above and you need an XS key? I couldn't even find a download. Mmp wrote: There are very good Atari emulators that suppot MIDI for both PC & Mac with lots of music software. A good site that has compiled music software released into the public domain is:, but there are others. I seems like Atari hardware might be the most hassle free way of working with older synths, if you don't have 'legacy' computers on hand already.
There looks to be a soundiver version and quite a very different editors with support for a variety of hardware. With built-in MIDI ports are you safe from the depths of driver hell? Hopefully there is a reasonable priced CF drive option so you can just load it all on there and not have to worry about disk management. Does Win 98 have class compliant MIDI USB drivers? I have a win95 machine I keep around, but I need to find a game port MIDI cable. Plus you also need to get the software and genuinely worry about viruses because so much of the software doesn't even have legitimate means of obtaining or using anymore. Old windows machines are kinda crappy too.
Not sure what the options for cheap, quiet, small OS9 machines are or where to get the software. At least emagic AMT8/Unitor8s are nice.
Widdly JSynthlib works well for DX7 and TX816. It is a good librarian and editor.
I have it running on a cheap linux netbook. For the TX816 you can setup different Device ID's and address each of the TF1's separately. Marc Bareille has an editor here for DX7 and TX816 here. The editor has a few bugs. I cannot get it to change function parameters. As a librarian it is very good. It comes with a massive library to pull patches from.
Lionelfischer i still think that emw box looks dope. Its not that expensive and elminates a computer. Anyone used it?
Ranxerox jonah wrote: Soundiver osx beta appears not to work on 10.7 and above and you need an XS key? I couldn't even find a download. Oops, yes sorry, forgot it needs an xskey dongle to work!
I'm running it on an old G5 with Tiger. I used to use version 2 on a win XP laptop, don't remember how I got it to work.
MIDI drivers are relatively painless on XP, depending on the interface. I have an Edirol 4x4 USB one that works with just about anything that has a USB port. Lionelfischer can someone help me, i'm trying to make my own bank of 32 sounds using sounds i've plucked from various banks i've downloaded. Is there a program for OSX that lets me stitch my own 'greatest hits' bank together?
Ununseptium If you're a dyed in the wool wiggler and don't want to mess around with computer editors, my advice would be to get yourself a Behringer BCR2000 midi control surface. These can be picked up cheaply second-hand and, with the aid of a certain template, you can edit every parameter on your DX7 in real time with knobs! You'll soon end up with more bespoke weird patches than you can shake a really shakey stick. I use this set up with my TX7 (table-top version of DX7) for instant gratification. See example below. sIf you want template for the BCR let me know and I'll send you a link./s hollowman ununseptium wrote: If you're a dyed in the wool wiggler and don't want to mess around with computer editors, my advice would be to get yourself a Behringer BCR2000 midi control surface. These can be picked up cheaply second-hand and, with the aid of a certain template, you can edit every parameter on your DX7 in real time with knobs!
You'll soon end up with more bespoke weird patches than you can shake a really shakey stick. I use this set up with my TX7 (table-top version of DX7) for instant gratification. See example below. sIf you want template for the BCR let me know and I'll send you a link./s If you think it would work with a dx11 I would love it Ranxerox ununseptium wrote: If you're a dyed in the wool wiggler and don't want to mess around with computer editors, my advice would be to get yourself a Behringer BCR2000 midi control Or a Kenton Control Freak, and you can donwload templates from their website for many synths including the DX7, DX21, DX27 etc. Ununseptium Not sure about the DX11, but there is a preset template for some 4 Op Yamahas. If you join the BCR2K Yahoo Group (they have a good range of presets for different synths including the DX range. The BCR2K is a pretty hand controllers with more knobby encoder than most.
Hollowman ununseptium wrote: Not sure about the DX11, but there is a preset template for some 4 Op Yamahas. If you join the BCR2K Yahoo Group (they have a good range of presets for different synths including the DX range. The BCR2K is a pretty hand controllers with more knobby encoder than most.
Thanks jimmyedgar I went through the same deal but you are best being patient and finding them and tweaking them with sysex, one small tweak can yield fast results mostly. I found the best were the ones trying to be bells, voices, and cheesy sound effects Paranormal Patroler I'll revive this thread by suggesting this one: I'm really eager to use it with my TX7. I've been going through my FM phase again dunes82 reviving in 2015. I've been really enjoying using the dexed.
Dx7 Sysex Patch Free
Free w a synth engine and can import/export system to dx7 or tx7 mousegarden tim gueguen wrote: Given how hard most people find programming one wouldn't werido patches be an easy result of any attempt at programming? The DX7 was my main keyboard for fifteen years. I got to know it inside out.
A few secrets to making unusual sounds are the envelopes, and extreme operator ratio's at high octaves. Set up a sound and transpose it up a few octaves, and then play the top notes, you get some lovely aliasing effects, this is great when connecting an 8 octave controller keyboard. Once you get your head around the basics like operator modulator/carrier functions, it's simple really. Also get either FM7 or FM8, the latter has a great random/morphing function, and will import hardware DX7 patches. If you really want some totally mind blowing FM sounds check out a secondhand SY77, I had a friend who took this thing to the most strange places sonically, some of the most amazing sounds I've ever heard from anything, period. Mousegarden I've got lots of unique patches for the DX7, you are quite welcome to have them.
I can send the FM7/8 files in a mail if you want, just PM me of you are interested. I may even have the original DX7 sysex files. Also check out the work of Michael Brook, his track Shona Bridge, all the percussion is TX802, beautiful stuff. Paranormal Patroler I am definitely interested in DX7 sysex patches if available. Mousegarden lionelfischer wrote: Does anyone have recommendations for someone like me that's trying to find bizarre sounds instead of traditional bass, piano, and pads etc I've just been working my way through Komplete Ultimate, looking for potentially interesting patches, 99.9% of them are total crap. I'd like to know who they think this stuff will appeal to? It seems to me that the whole world is intent on producing the cheesiest dance music, I'm fed up to the back teeth with Moog this and Moog that, bass, lead, 'pads' ugh!
Do Native Instruments, Ableton, Arturia etc etc really think that we want to hear this crap? Just leave the banks empty, it may actually encourage people to make their own sounds which would be a lot more interesting, like getting back to pre preset days.
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